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6/26/17

Biology professor PZ Myers has taken quite a bit of heat for about 2 years now
over his dismissal of 'Dictionary' atheists, who are people who solely define atheists,
as people who reject all god claims, as per the dictionary.
Myers prefers a broader definition that he has apparently created himself.
His definition includes a set of morals and beliefs that define what an atheist is.
The more flack he receives, the harder he doubles down on his position.
At this point, there seems to be little hope that he will abandon his position.

However, it is no longer necessary to continue this debate.
Whether he admits it or not, Myers has destroyed his own argument
with a serious of posts in recent months
in which he has lashed out at immature sexual harassers within the atheist community.
Are these people atheists?
By Myers' own admission ... they are.
Do they fit into 'his' definition of atheists?
No. They do not.

This is what happens when you try to redefine words
to be what you need them to be -
a lesson Myers should have learned from the experts in redefinition ... Creationists.

Case closed.


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9/26/13

PZ Myers said:

"I know I’m notorious for complaining about those goofy definitions of atheism
('it just means 'not believing in god, nothing more!', the superficial mob will say) 
"

My reply:

PZ, I find it disappointing that you consider dictionary definitions "goofy"
just because they don't define the word the way you want them to.

And calling people "superficial" is nothing more than hurling an insult
at those with whom you disagree.

PZ Myers said:

"Because the word has acquired much deeper resonances
that we ignore at our peril,
and has implications far greater than simple rejection of one assertion.
"

My reply:

PZ, the word that carries the definition you desire is called "Humanism."
It is unnecessary and illogical to attempt to redefine a word
when there exists another word that already fits what you want.

PZ Myers attacks atheists who don't stay in line (again)


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6/22/13

One thing (among so many) that really pisses me off,
is the infighting that I see among atheists
over how best to battle the ignorance and hate promoted by Ghost Worshipers.
I believe that, as the tiniest army on Earth,
we can't afford to divide our meager resources
by alienating comrades who don't agree with our favorite method.
We need to attack with everything we've got: the army, navy, air force, and the marines.
Some people respond best to a soft approach; others need a hammer.

Here is a group that works for progress by using methods completely opposite to what I use;
and I wish them the best of luck.
I think many people will respond to the approach that this group employs.
For those who don't ... some of us carry hammers.

The Humanist 'Church' at Harvard


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4/23/13

Richard Carrier posted a video on YouTube in which he promoted Atheism+.
Personally, I don't care much for the movement
because I disagree with its basic premise;
that Atheism encompasses anything more than a disbelief in gods.
I think they are conflating Atheism with Humanism.
I will admit however, that some of their ideas are good
(for instance, when they line up with humanistic values).

Many atheists reject the premise of Atheism+,
but one group led by 'Thunderfoot', has escalated the dispute into a hissy fit.
They went to the video site and downgraded it.
I commented, chastizing the group for such childish behavior.
Naturally, a few of them responded. Here is one of them:

Read his comments - followed by my replies

I think this is a perfect time to try out my new 'Retard Chart'

I.Q.    Classification
<70                Moron
<50            Imbecile
<25                  Idiot

So where does our first-ever Retard Contestant fit in?

Actually, he survived. He was evaluated above Moron.
You can decide for yourselves ... by how much.

I guess I spoke too soon.
After reading this article he posted a reply
complaining about being labeled ...

a moron


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1/19/13

For years PZ Myers has refused to back down
from his stance against 'Dictionary' atheists.
He maintains that atheism entails far more than simply a rejection of God.
I even did a podcast (#140) trying to explain to him
where I believe his thinking went wrong.

The article below led me to mistakenly believe
that he was finally beginning to see the error of his thinking;
and then I noticed that this story was posted before  the ones above.

Never mind

Myers deeply disappointed in a portion of the atheist community

Atheists may believe in homeopathy, Bigfoot, and alien visitations.
They may hold opinions that are bigoted against gays and women
as demonstrated in the link above.
The only thing you can be sure that they have in common, is a disbelief in God ...

by definition


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Debates


11/3/17

Bad Christian arguments:
"Atheist leaders are responsible for millions of deaths "

Let's take a closer look at those atheist leaders, shall we?

Stalin was raised Christian and attended Seminary
where he learned from the Bible that mass murder was morally acceptable ...
as long as you could justify it.

Castro was raised Catholic and attended Jesuit schools.

Hitler was raised Catholic, and remained so, until his death.
What did Hitler think about Atheists?

He outlawed them

Maybe Christians will have better luck in the Far East?

Mao Zedong was raised Buddhist.
Chang Kai-chek was raised Methodist.
Sun Yat-sen was raised Congregationalist (Christian).
Pol Pot had a Catholic upbringing.

If these men had been raised without religion,
could things have turned out better?

Who knows?

But we do know, they couldn't have turned out ... much worse.




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1/19/14

"Eight Examples of How I Agree with Religious Fundamentalists"
by Herb Silverman

And my responses to his essay (3 pages)


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10/23/13

This debate was so one-sided that the church which hosted it, refused to post it
until pressured to do so by multiple atheist groups (1:17:41).

Phil Zuckerman vs. David Marshall

Protestants v. Catholics in the late 1500's France = millions dead.
The 30 years war (1618-48) = large fraction of Europe killed.


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2/8/13

15 questions atheists are sick of hearing ...

And some nifty replies


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11/17/12

VIDEO DEBATE

Neo vs. Joel Saint on "The Existence of God"

Watch (56:26)


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8/3/12

As long as you're in the mood to watch videos:

Video of Neo vs. Matt Slick's
Transcendental Argument for the existence of God
(17:26)

To watch the video, click on Matt Slick's picture



Read the Email Exchange That Preceded the Video


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Decline of the Christian Empire


7/18/18

"Secularization precedes economic development and not the other way around.
Although this does not demonstrate a causal pathway, it does rule out the reverse.
Furthermore, secularization only predicts future economic development when ...


it is accompanied by a respect and tolerance for individual rights "


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11/20/17

I didn't expect so much progress this fast;
for the first time in American history ...

"Nones" (34%) surpass "Protestants" (33%) for the top spot

And notice the source of that story ... "Christian Times.com"


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7/3/17

How is the battle going to free humans from the matrix?



I have to admit: sometimes when things go down, that may mean ...
that things are looking up


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6/26/17

The largest religious category in Australia is (drum roll please) ...

"None"

Bringing sanity to the world ... one country at a time


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6/23/17

Hollywood's most famous nonbelievers

F.Y.I. - "Agnostics" and "Non-Religious" do not believe in God.
They are atheists who are wise enough about American culture to choose other labels.


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12/15/16

Why are conservative Christian congregations growing
while modern, progressive Christian congregations continue to shrink?


They didn't attempt to explain why ... but I will.

There is a gigantic intellectual gap
between Conservative Christians (found mostly in the Republican party)
and modern, progressive Christians (found mostly in the Democratic party).

It is nearly impossible to reason with conservative Christians.
Facts and truth mean nothing to them.
They cannot be educated; nor can they be reasoned with.
They follow the God of the Old Testament and ignore all of Jesus' teachings.

But progressive Christians tend to accept science.
Facts and truth do matter to them.
They try other religions and even no religion.
These Christians follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

For most of the positive changes we see in American society
we can thank, mainly, progressive Christians.
(for example: gay marriage and abortion services)

Most the horrors we see in American society
can be laid at the feet of conservative Christians.
(like white supremacy and the attempts to theocratize our democracy)

Since the Conservative mind refuses to reason,
our best bet is to join modern, progressive Christians in prayer ...

and pray that Fox News accidentally transmits a fatal brain virus to its viewers


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3/21/16

State-sponsored atheism: China is the only one left.



Freedom of religion should be a right.
But the freedom to hurt other people in the name of your religion ...

should not


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5/12/15

Americans are fleeing "ghost worship" in droves



It wasn't all that long ago that America was nearly 100% Christian


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4/14/15

The least religious country on Earth?

China




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2/5/15

For the first time ever, religious "nones" outnumber Catholics ...

among incoming college freshmen

This is why Christians are panicking.
Never in their history has their domination been challenged,
as it is being challenged now.


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11/14/14

Venture capitalist Dave Cowan looks at Christianity from ...

a business perspective


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4/9/14

Survey finds Americans are becoming more skeptical of the Bible

So what took them so long? The Bible hasn't changed, has it?

(Oops! I almost forgot about all those dozens of different Bible versions)

I think the real reason why people are waking up
is because of the anonymity granted by the internet,
which has given people a degree of safety never known before.
They can now express themselves with far less fear of reprisal.
They can find support from groups of rational people,
even if they live in a forsaken area like the Bible Belt.

And the best news is the demographic. This age group represents the future.
And the future is looking a whole lot brighter ... than the past.


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1/11/14

Here is a story which is becoming more and more common

Churches transformed into homes


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12/17/13

Quote from Creationist Ken Ham:

"Of course, children believing that the universe and everything in it
were designed by God isn’t acceptable to secularists. Their solution?
One key way is to use picture books to teach children
the evolutionary view of the universe, beginning in kindergarten.
This actually reminds me of a quote attributed to Hitler:
'He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future!'  




Ken,
Hitler got that one right; which is why you Ghost Worshipers are screwed.

The percentage of nonbelievers among millennials
is higher than that of any generation ever recorded ...

Poll shows that God is fading faster than a desert oasis



So when you die Ken, it looks like you'll be joining those dinosaurs you like so much.
Centuries from now, if anyone does look back at the sad little men
who did their best to hold back civilization ...
your picture will give them something to laugh at.




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11/18/13

So how is the culture war going?

Depends on which side of the fence you're on

Well, they could move to America.
The outcome will probably be the same ...
but they might hold out a little longer.


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3/12/13

According to a U.C. Berkeley study, Americans are abandoning religion ... fast.

Biggest losses are among Catholics

You might remember when I presented evidence
that Gallup was not an unbiased polling organization,
but rather, another arm of the Christian Far Right?

Well, I hate to say I told you so, but ...

I told you so


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1/23/13

Poll results: Quality of life in Ireland

Out of 119 items ... check out what came in last

This is the same country where citizens recently killed each other over religion.
I see this as more proof of evolution.


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1/16/13

The weapon that rational people have waited for,
for thousands of years, is finally in our hands.

Religion may not survive the internet

The internet has provided a degree of anonymity (and therefore safety)
never before available to humans, who are using it to fight back against

Religious Terrorism


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1/14/13



As Charlie Sheen would say .. "Winning"


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10/1/11

The Rise of Atheism

At least we're headed in the right direction.
But we have a long, long way to go.


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Humor


6/15/17

Have you ever considered that maybe the Bible is nothing more ...
than an alien IQ test?

Scenario

Thousands of years ago, alien explorers
decided to experiment on ancient humans
to see how advanced they were.

So they gave them a book filled with the most incredible stories
that defied all scientific laws and common sense,
contained fantastic mythical creatures,
and which featured an invisible ghost who was the most evil creature
that has ever been described in any human literature
from anywhere on the planet, at any time in history.

Knowing that if there were any rational people, they would likely reject this book,
the aliens added a threat so unimaginably horrible
that nothing could ever compare to the fear that it would instill.
Then they left, figuring that they would return in a few thousand years
and see how these semi-intelligent beings called humans had reacted to their book.

Now, imagine how our world might have evolved
without interference from those aliens.
By now, we would probably be exploring other star systems.

But as it turned out, the aliens had better hurry back ...
while there is still something to return to.


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6/15/15

The evolution of man



Hinduism (polytheism), Christianity (3 gods), Islam (monotheism), Atheism (no gods).


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12/5/14

The logic in this is so powerful and irresistible
that it looks like my atheist days may soon be over.




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Morality


10/9/17

Bad Christian arguments:
"There are no Atheists in foxholes."

It's true that you won't find many,
but what you would find, if you could look ...

is millions of dead Christians.


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10/6/17

Bad Christian arguments:
"How can Atheists be moral without God?"

Ask any Christian if they have done something wrong,
for which Jesus did not forgive them.

When they answer "No" - as they most surely will,
point out that, by their own admission, their morality
allows them to commit any crime, no matter how heinous,
yet they will always be forgiven.
So the ones who are free to commit any immorality are not atheists ...

but Christians


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10/3/17

Bad Christian arguments:
"Atheists are arrogant - Christians are humble."

CHRISTIAN
God created the Universe just for us.
We have been chosen because we are special.
God watches every single thing we do.
God will reward those who believe in Him with an eternity in Heaven;
and for those who do not, with an eternity in Hell.
We have absolute knowledge because the Bible has provided it.
Only Christians are moral.
Non-Christians are immoral and deserve eternal punishment.

ATHEIST
We are an insignificant speck in a gigantic Universe.
Our beginnings were humble ... our ancestors were single-celled germs.
Through evolution we came to dominate the other animals,
many of whom, including insects,
continue to exhibit superior social qualities to our own.
We know nothing for certain; only to a degree of certainty.
We choose to be moral, not because we are being threatened by invisible monsters,
but because it is the right thing to do.

Any questions?

Didn't think so


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8/17/16

This list could not have been publicized
until Ghost Worship had subsided to less violent levels.

atheist celebrities

I didn't see my name anywhere.
I'm sure that was just an oversight.


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2/24/16

Some facts about "atheist" killers
that Christians would rather ... you didn't know.

Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Chang Kai-chek, Sun Yat-sen, Castro, Trotsky, and Marx


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7/9/15

For those of you who don't understand the "new atheists" ...

this should clear things up

And here is the simple version




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3/25/15

Bad Christian arguments:
"Without God, atheists would rape and kill "

So if you weren't being threatened by God, you would rape and kill?
Then you should remain a Christian, and keep your Bible clutched tightly in your hands ...

at ALL times

I think Dusty puts it best (4:47)




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3/18/15

My opinion of "Old Blue Eyes" (Frank Sinatra)
has just skyrocketed after reading his comments on religion




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2/25/15

Phil Zuckerman on raising secular children (32:09)




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9/4/13

Bad Christian arguments: atheists are immoral

This one wasn't even close

Any way you cut it ... atheists, in general, are more moral.


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7/16/13

Information on the religious beliefs of federal inmates
has been released by the government.

Actual prison statistics

Atheists didn't do all that bad ... did we?


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Violence
Against


6/7/17

"An agnostic is simply an atheist ... with a wife and kids "

That doesn't tell you all that much about atheists;
but it does tell you everything you need to know about ...

Conservative Christians


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2/11/15

Atheist nutjob murders 3 Muslims over a parking dispute

If there is a silver lining in this horrific tragedy
it is that the incarceration of this craphead
will nearly double the number of atheists in prison;
something that Christians have been hoping for ...

for a long, long time

UPDATE

After an atheist murdered 3 Muslims in North Carolina ...

some writers got it wrong (4 pages)

Her essay generated over 1,000 comments
many of which, tried to tell her the same thing I did.
(maybe that's why she got so "touchy?")


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4/22/14

Early atheists were among the bravest humans who have ever lived.
Let's take a look at the scary lives a few of them lived
as they tried to survive, surrounded by rabid violent Ghost Worshipers.

Casimir Liszinski (1634-1689)

He was tortured and executed publicly by the Catholic Church
for publishing atheist literature.

Jean Meslier (1664-1729)

"a Catholic priest who had renounced Christianity
in a posthumously published Testament.
 "

Baron d'Holbach (1723-1789)

"The authorship of his various anti-religious works
did not become widely known until the early 19th century.
 "

That might explain why he didn't face the guillotine.

Ludwig Andreas Feuerbach (1804-1872)

Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)

History will look back kindly on these brave heroes ...

but only if we win


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12/10/13

13 countries allow the death penalty for Atheism

Modern civilization? Are you serious?

It will be a long time before humanity can refer to itself as either modern or civilized.
We'll know when that time finally arrives; it will be when rational people are honored ...
rather than hunted and killed.

Here is the list of countries that murder people for being rational ...

Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan,
Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.


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